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	<title>Comments on: Nature of Code Book Chapter 1 Draft Available</title>
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		<title>By: Jordan</title>
		<link>http://www.shiffman.net/2009/06/02/nature-of-code-book-2/comment-page-1/#comment-618457</link>
		<dc:creator>Jordan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 19:16:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Awesome, Let us know where you post them. I would love to read them over.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awesome, Let us know where you post them. I would love to read them over.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
		<link>http://www.shiffman.net/2009/06/02/nature-of-code-book-2/comment-page-1/#comment-617496</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 03:34:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I am 90% done with Chapter 2 and hope to have several more completed during this semester.  So please continue to bug me and push me to get it done!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I am 90% done with Chapter 2 and hope to have several more completed during this semester.  So please continue to bug me and push me to get it done!</p>
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		<title>By: Jordan</title>
		<link>http://www.shiffman.net/2009/06/02/nature-of-code-book-2/comment-page-1/#comment-615324</link>
		<dc:creator>Jordan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 00:14:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t wait to get my hands on the next chapters. Great work! Any ideas on when we can pick up new ones?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t wait to get my hands on the next chapters. Great work! Any ideas on when we can pick up new ones?</p>
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		<title>By: Ray</title>
		<link>http://www.shiffman.net/2009/06/02/nature-of-code-book-2/comment-page-1/#comment-592907</link>
		<dc:creator>Ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 18:21:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Dan,

I&#039;m very late coming into this thread, but in terms of self publishing. Have you looked into BookSurge and Create Space?  They are self publishing services, both owned by Amazon.com. Booksurge is being merged into CreateSpace. Publishing in BookSurge gets you into the Amazon.com bookstore, and as I understand it, they also do wholesale ordering (to answer your university bookstore.

http://www.booksurge.com

Hope this is helpful.

-Ray (ITP &#039;01)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Dan,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m very late coming into this thread, but in terms of self publishing. Have you looked into BookSurge and Create Space?  They are self publishing services, both owned by Amazon.com. Booksurge is being merged into CreateSpace. Publishing in BookSurge gets you into the Amazon.com bookstore, and as I understand it, they also do wholesale ordering (to answer your university bookstore.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.booksurge.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.booksurge.com</a></p>
<p>Hope this is helpful.</p>
<p>-Ray (ITP &#8216;01)</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
		<link>http://www.shiffman.net/2009/06/02/nature-of-code-book-2/comment-page-1/#comment-588838</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 02:03:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The discounted or free upgrade is a great idea.  Hmmm, does anyone know of a print-on-demand service that supports such a feature?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The discounted or free upgrade is a great idea.  Hmmm, does anyone know of a print-on-demand service that supports such a feature?</p>
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		<title>By: Maurice Rabb</title>
		<link>http://www.shiffman.net/2009/06/02/nature-of-code-book-2/comment-page-1/#comment-586333</link>
		<dc:creator>Maurice Rabb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 15:36:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops!  Sorry for the repeat about upgrading books.  I just saw FÃ¶rvillelser comments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops!  Sorry for the repeat about upgrading books.  I just saw FÃ¶rvillelser comments.</p>
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		<title>By: Maurice Rabb</title>
		<link>http://www.shiffman.net/2009/06/02/nature-of-code-book-2/comment-page-1/#comment-586249</link>
		<dc:creator>Maurice Rabb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 05:32:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Daniel,

I took a quick look at the chapter one draft, and in short it is very encouraging!  It looks very promising and I would definitely purchase it.  I previously purchased &quot;Learning Processing&quot; and though it was well written, I was somewhat disappointed by it because I was expecting it to be more like the content I found in the &quot;nature of code&quot; sections of your website.  So, I am truly delighted that that material will eventually make it into print.  While having things in electronic form is convenient for search, etc, there is nothing like the ease of reading from paper and the convenience of using an actual book when reading on the bus or bed.  Which leads me to my comments about your concerns about a self-published book for university courses.

I don&#039;t see why this route won&#039;t work.  I am a PhD student in CS at Univ of IL.  When I recently TA&#039;ed Ralph Johnson&#039;s object-oriented design course, one of our texts was a self-published pdf book. (See https://agora.cs.illinois.edu/display/cs598rejsu09/Textbooks) While the book was free, I am sure that all the students would have been willing to pay for it, particularly at the price point you have suggested.  We also provided a link to a paper copy from Lulu.  I know that many students, did in fact purchase (this otherwise free) book there.  

Must your book actually be in the school bookstores?  Since most courses that would use your book have websites, and since most students look up info about their courses online before the semester/quarter begins; if the professors using your book post their syllabus to their websites, their students should be able to get the book in time.  The only annoyance I have had with purchasing a paper copy of a Lulu book is the regret I have when a updated version of the book is released.  When this happens, I always get the new pdf version, but have never yet repurchased a new paper copy.  However, I might purchase an updated paper copy if I was given a special discounted &quot;update&quot; price.

Good luck!

Maurice</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Daniel,</p>
<p>I took a quick look at the chapter one draft, and in short it is very encouraging!  It looks very promising and I would definitely purchase it.  I previously purchased &#8220;Learning Processing&#8221; and though it was well written, I was somewhat disappointed by it because I was expecting it to be more like the content I found in the &#8220;nature of code&#8221; sections of your website.  So, I am truly delighted that that material will eventually make it into print.  While having things in electronic form is convenient for search, etc, there is nothing like the ease of reading from paper and the convenience of using an actual book when reading on the bus or bed.  Which leads me to my comments about your concerns about a self-published book for university courses.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t see why this route won&#8217;t work.  I am a PhD student in CS at Univ of IL.  When I recently TA&#8217;ed Ralph Johnson&#8217;s object-oriented design course, one of our texts was a self-published pdf book. (See <a href="https://agora.cs.illinois.edu/display/cs598rejsu09/Textbooks)" rel="nofollow">https://agora.cs.illinois.edu/display/cs598rejsu09/Textbooks)</a> While the book was free, I am sure that all the students would have been willing to pay for it, particularly at the price point you have suggested.  We also provided a link to a paper copy from Lulu.  I know that many students, did in fact purchase (this otherwise free) book there.  </p>
<p>Must your book actually be in the school bookstores?  Since most courses that would use your book have websites, and since most students look up info about their courses online before the semester/quarter begins; if the professors using your book post their syllabus to their websites, their students should be able to get the book in time.  The only annoyance I have had with purchasing a paper copy of a Lulu book is the regret I have when a updated version of the book is released.  When this happens, I always get the new pdf version, but have never yet repurchased a new paper copy.  However, I might purchase an updated paper copy if I was given a special discounted &#8220;update&#8221; price.</p>
<p>Good luck!</p>
<p>Maurice</p>
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		<title>By: Rory Button</title>
		<link>http://www.shiffman.net/2009/06/02/nature-of-code-book-2/comment-page-1/#comment-570589</link>
		<dc:creator>Rory Button</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 06:41:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Daniel,

So glad you have begun work on this project. I too will buy the new book in whatever format available (you are that good).

On your comment that self-publishing allows for online early release of PDF&#039;s for feedback, I have been acquiring a new OSGi book one chapter-at-a-time as they are written through Manning Publications&#039; Early Access Edition program. Have to say it works well and the option to purchase an Ebook only at the end makes pricing fairly reasonable. Not sure about how fair the author&#039;s share is though - you would need to look into it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Daniel,</p>
<p>So glad you have begun work on this project. I too will buy the new book in whatever format available (you are that good).</p>
<p>On your comment that self-publishing allows for online early release of PDF&#8217;s for feedback, I have been acquiring a new OSGi book one chapter-at-a-time as they are written through Manning Publications&#8217; Early Access Edition program. Have to say it works well and the option to purchase an Ebook only at the end makes pricing fairly reasonable. Not sure about how fair the author&#8217;s share is though &#8211; you would need to look into it.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Dijkema</title>
		<link>http://www.shiffman.net/2009/06/02/nature-of-code-book-2/comment-page-1/#comment-527181</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Dijkema</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 09:15:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am new to processing, but i do know who my guru is, love your site and your courses, keep up the good work. and sure i will buy your book. greetings from the Netherlands</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am new to processing, but i do know who my guru is, love your site and your courses, keep up the good work. and sure i will buy your book. greetings from the Netherlands</p>
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		<title>By: Liam Walsh</title>
		<link>http://www.shiffman.net/2009/06/02/nature-of-code-book-2/comment-page-1/#comment-510200</link>
		<dc:creator>Liam Walsh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 11:37:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hopefully the Kindle and it&#039;s like will grow to the point where you won&#039;t even need a publisher.
If I could buy a kindle right now I would, and then your PDF&#039;s etc.
I&#039;m sure you could cash in on some of the goodwill you&#039;ve built up from the dev community over the years to get some help with the technical editing as well.
Good luck with this Mr. Shiffman.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hopefully the Kindle and it&#8217;s like will grow to the point where you won&#8217;t even need a publisher.<br />
If I could buy a kindle right now I would, and then your PDF&#8217;s etc.<br />
I&#8217;m sure you could cash in on some of the goodwill you&#8217;ve built up from the dev community over the years to get some help with the technical editing as well.<br />
Good luck with this Mr. Shiffman.</p>
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